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Frank Danieli on the Capital Allocators podcast
Published 16 July 2026
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In his most comprehensive interview to date, our Head of Global Credit Solutions Frank Danieli joins the Capital Allocators podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on private credit, giving listeners under-the-hood insights into how we approach credit investing and why being “optimistically pessimistic” drives us.  

Highlights from Frank’s conversation include: 

  • How we're building a diversified fixed income alternative rather than chasing equity-like returns 
  • Why private credit is far broader than sponsor-backed direct lending 
  • How coming from the “dark side of credit” is a key competitive advantage  
  • Why we believe proprietary origination is the future of high-quality credit investing  
  • Why we encourage constructive tension between our investment and portfolio management teams  
  • Insight into our “What You Have To Believe” framework for understanding downside risk  
  • How red teams, "war games" and "break the glass now" planning strengthen portfolio resilience 
  • The dangers of monoline credit, and why diversification is critical in private credit  
  • Where we see the greatest opportunities in Australia, and why we’re expanding into the US   
  • Why transparency, governance and disclosure are key to building long-term investor confidence 

Listen to the full interview

Head of Global Credit Solutions, Frank Danieli
Capital Allocators podcast
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